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Setting the Table: Why Flourishing Leadership Matters Now, Deborah Owen with Kari Kinard

Flourishing Leadership in Tough Times podcast, Season 1, episode 1

What does it mean to lead wisely, not just reactively, in a world that feels unstable and overwhelmed?

In this first episode of Flourishing Leadership in Tough Times, I sit down with my colleague and fellow doctoral candidate, Kari Kinard—a leader with years of cross-cultural experience in medical and nonprofit work across Africa—to explore the why behind this podcast.

Together, we name the questions beneath the questions:
– What if burnout isn’t personal failure, but a systemic signal?
– How do we resist the pressure to have it all together—and lead from a deeper, grounded center?
– And what does flourishing even mean when times are hard?

This conversation sets the tone for what’s to come: honest, spacious, and deeply human. I hope you’ll listen.

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