What does it mean to lead wisely, not just reactively, in a world that feels unstable and overwhelmed?
In this first episode of Flourishing Leadership in Tough Times, I sit down with my colleague and fellow doctoral candidate, Kari Kinard—a leader with years of cross-cultural experience in medical and nonprofit work across Africa—to explore the why behind this podcast.
Together, we name the questions beneath the questions:
– What if burnout isn’t personal failure, but a systemic signal?
– How do we resist the pressure to have it all together—and lead from a deeper, grounded center?
– And what does flourishing even mean when times are hard?
This conversation sets the tone for what’s to come: honest, spacious, and deeply human. I hope you’ll listen.










